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Because Patreon includes AI, novels, podcasts, games, music, etc., there are too many types of artists, which makes people dizzy. Therefore, the tagging function is more important. In addition, Fanbox and Fantia are not back, so I won’t say more.

my comment was deleted bruh

>>50379
Oh, sorry, I deleted the post and republished it

>>50379
I didn't know this would cause the comment to be deleted, I'm sorry

>>50379
Regarding the rule34.xxx you mentioned, I am also using it. It is tagged for every post. Very convenient.
And what I am saying is that I hope artists can also have labels.
Especially Patreon, you know

>>50382
why did you do that
>>50386
the reason why I directed you to rule34 is because you shouldn't be using kemono to search for stuff like that. kemono is a site you use to search artists whose names you already now. I for instance use it to look for paywalled posts from artists I like.

Kemono has very little tagging functions and is just a pain to navigate. The admins won't listen to you and it's highly unlikely they'll change anything in the short to medium term.

>>50387
Because I felt that the content I posted was not good enough, I deleted the post, which is a bit obsessive-compulsive.
No matter what, I still have to post it. After all, if no one talks about it, others will not know about it.

Where do you think these "tags" come from? Or the potential "labels" (what is the difference there from "tags"?).

>>50396
I don't quite understand what this sentence means

>>50397
It literally means what it says. How do you think tags appear on kemono?

There are already tags retrieved from Patreon creators when they use them.
https://kemono.su/documentation/api

If you entrust tagging to the community, good luck.

>>50411
because e-hentai is sooo bad, right?

>>50400
Maybe it doesn't need to be too complicated.
Rely on the community or others to classify some artists as AI, R18, non-R18.
At most, it can be Straight, Gay, Futa, 3D, 2D.
No detailed labels are needed

>>50417
Although some of my content or information may be incomplete, the meaning is this.

>>50411
> There are already tags retrieved from Patreon creators when they use them.
Right, and that means these tags:
- are not guaranteed to represent actual content
- are not guaranteed to present for the content they should be present for
Add multilang on top and tag blacklisting will do literally nothing. Sure, it might work for a lot of patreon AI posts, because I assume patreon has some sort of rule for creators to declare them as such (I doubt it's strongly enforced or strongly followed on either side), but that won't reduce the amount of undesirable for a user content.

>>50414
You mean the site with an army of mods backed by entire pipeline for tagging? And you still have to beg on the forum straight from web1 era to add new tags.

>>50417
> Maybe it doesn't need to be too complicated.
You say it doesn't need to be, but literally expressed a system more complicated than e-hentai.

How does an MMD video of a dickgirl (with balls) Reimu cosplaying as Sanae fucking a pillowified ftm Sanae who cosplays as Reimu, with Suika shooting up drugs and drinking alcohol with AI-generated never goon minion in the background while playing Manhunt, fits into your category? All the "bad" parts are heavily censored with white beams, so it's definitely not R-18.
Don't forget to justify your choice in a thousand or so words for the mod who'd review your submission in a queue of thousands.

This reminds of a commit in the danbooru repo which limited the maximum amount of tags on a post to [1250 tags](https://github.com/danbooru/danbooru/commit/560127ccefd17a43d40855dc4fcb5e806193598e). Pretty rich to assume it's not possible to have a post which would include every single tag in existence, especially in context of hentai.

>>50430
If the artist only publishes or publishes a lot of AI posts, you can label the artist as AI.
That's it, not that complicated, okay?
There is no need for so many labels, and there is no mention of adding labels to posts.
At most, add R18 and non-R18 (fixed) to the artist, then give 3D, 2D, AI, Reality (fixed or non-fixed), and finally Straight, Gay, Lesbian, Futa (fixed or non-fixed). In special cases, add some labels such as games, novels, music, and cars (non-fixed).
It's very simple, there is no need to have as complicated and numerous labels as posts.
An artist has a maximum of 1-4 labels. What labels the artist will get depends on the post.

>>50433
Reality refers to real people. （temporary

>>50433
AI detection is simpler than most people think, same for 3D. As for whether that warrants tags, most of kemono is dead or malfuctioning, so why not just use what still somewhat works and leave it at that?

That'd still require implementation. And people who want to import their subscriptions would rather help code a fix (that won't happen because the admin is paranoid and will just say they were pajeets, AI or dumb fucks) than have extra features.

Why would you want a MLP tag with a caveman system and tag search? Just use an userscript and fix it when the site breaks it to get your ponies sucking each other's dicks.

>>50430
>You mean the site with an army of mods backed by entire pipeline for tagging? And you still have to beg on the forum straight from web1 era to add new tags.
So what?
Rule34 is near complete anarchy in that sense and it works very well.
Yes, it will require moderation. I never say it wouldn't. Jannies like you need some work to do after all.
>How does an MMD video of a dickgirl (with balls) Reimu cosplaying as Sanae fucking a pillowified ftm Sanae
ad absurdum fallacy

the aluminum foil hats that say admin wants to keep the site working like garbage are making more and more sense as the days pass

>>50461
If you listen to everything the namefag says you'll get brain damage. Just ignore him.

>>50396
>>50400
>>50430
>>50450

Shut the actual fuck up you dumb motherfucking cocksucking faggot nigger.

>>50450

Eat shit Cobbler.

>>50474
fuck you too with this shit

>>50433
> If the artist only publishes or publishes a lot of AI posts
Is the artist with a single post, which is also an AI post, an "AI-only artist"? Is the artist with 10000 posts, of which the recent 100 are AI posts (and therefore will appear as two whole pages of AI posts on his profile), an "AI artist"?
> you can label the artist as AI.
Who is "you"? I ain't "labeling" anything.
> That's it, not that complicated, okay?
Have you ever moderated in your life? Especially on a rare fetish porn site.
>There is no need for so many labels, and there is no mention of adding labels to posts.
Why did you introduce the concept of "labels" without introducing its definition? What is the difference from tags? Inferring from the usage in your posts, "labels" are basically tags anyway.
> At most, add R18 and non-R18 (fixed) to the artist,
R18 and non-R18 are british definitions, the american one would also include an equivalent of R-21. Safe to say these anglo-centric categories are completely meaningless in the multinational context. It doesn't even make sense to have these ratings on artist since it suffers from the same number problem as labeling "AI" artists.
> then give 3D, 2D, AI, Reality (fixed or non-fixed), and finally Straight, Gay, Lesbian, Futa (fixed or non-fixed). In special cases, add some labels such as games, novels, music, and cars (non-fixed).
Is a screenshot of MMD model 2D or 3D? How do orgies fit into those other categories? Is an FTM fucking an MTF gay or straight?

>>50433
> It's very simple, there is no need to have as complicated and numerous labels as posts.
Well if it's so simple, feel free to commit updates towards the public repo:
https://git.kemono.su/Kemono
It doesn't reflect the current state of frontend, but for sure this simple addition will not be hard to adapt since it's mostly backend stuff anyway.
> An artist has a maximum of 1-4 labels. What labels the artist will get depends on the post.
"Maximums" are not defined in ranges.
Labels deriving from "posts", by that I assume the post tags (what is the point of discerning the two?), suffer from the same numbers problem, while also not fixing the "flood" of "undesirable" content.

>>50450
> AI detection is simpler than most people think, same for 3D.
Anything "AI" (also known as "algorithms") is at best heuristics, you still need a moderator to approve the results of detection.

>>50461
> So what?
Are you retarded?
> Rule34 is near complete anarchy in that sense and it works very well.
You forgot the part where it's dogshit, much like any danbooru site. There is rarely a need to see a single picture when the average coomer cares about the post the picture is a part of, and danbooru-like design is very hostile to making arbitrary groups like that (especially in a multilanguage context). By a complete coincidence, a way better and useful implementation of the tagging system, e-hentai, is as non-anarchic as it can get.
> Yes, it will require moderation. I never say it wouldn't. Jannies like you need some work to do after all.
More like you'll be the one begging for tag permission and then get upset for countless rejections and then a totally unexpected revocation of the perm.
> ad absurdum fallacy
More like a cope on your side. Any post like the one shown in that danbooru commit is going to be a tag fiesta.
> the aluminum foil hats that say admin wants to keep the site working like garbage are making more and more sense as the days pass
You get the site in the working state you deserve, shrimple as.

>>50488
You're terrible and stubborn.
If like you, everything has its share of problems.

>>50488
>>50490
>>50491
nigger.

>>50497
he's just weasel wording his way into not changing anything. almost makes me think of a jew with their pilpul.

is cobbler jewish? nose check?

>>50490
If you come up with a great new feature, you'll ruin it because you always overthink it and end it before you even start.

>>50499
is cobbler jewish? yes!