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 No.71456

Now that we find ourselves at what's most likely the end of kemono I want to say that it was fun while it lasted, for the last 5 years I've visited this site often in the name of free stuff, I have almost 360 favorited artists, and I've been here for long enough that I even paid back what I got by scrapping some artists myself, that being said I believe that in the end what killed kemono was the lack of proper secrecy, unlike other sites like exhentai, simpcity or atf, Kemono was free to access for everyone, which was great for accesibility, but also made the site an extremely easy target to all sorts of attacks, I can only wonder what could've been of the site if it had had proper ways of gatekeeping itself, maybe the admins would've been able to manage the site better, maybe they wouldn't have gotten so tired and done with this site that was never supported by anyone else but themselves, who knows really though, because you can also say that they brought it upon themselves by not gatekeeping it in the first place.

Enough of that though, where I'm going with this is that if someone is making a new site, please, PLEASE, gatekeep it, do not go the kemono way of free access for everyone no account required, make it a requirement, and make it need a fucking email at the very least, even if just a temporary one, that way you prevent incompetent retards who spam slop or complain about not getting literally free stuff from being so prominent, seriously, protect yourself from those dumbasses, they only bring headaches and burnout.

 No.71465

>Curiosity killed the fox
Oh it sure did but she had no regrets.
https://files.catbox.moe/olurif.png

There's a better way anon.
1) Don't start a meme twitter account trolling artists. That's what retarded and edgy furries do and that was a super cool idea. Don't troll if you can't handle the counter-trolling. Simple as.
2) Deindex and delist immediately. No reverse search, no crawling, nothing. You don't get cookie points for SEO or showing up on Google for a highly illegal piracy website.
3) Keep it on the DW if you really want STO. Assmad Crayola eaters rarely venture in the land of snuff porn trading and human trafficking (and trying to sue and send takedowns on the DW is the most hilarious shit ever, this can even get you and your relatives ransomed, raped and/or killed)

or…
Use Radicle: >>>/coomer/10263
If link is dead https://rentry.co/yxcikiob
If rentry is dead https://archive.today
If everything is dead see above (and archive it when you see it too, the Internet Wayback Machine wasn't all that bad until it became Jewsland and a /pol/ nest so now you get a shit ton of delisted sites lmao)

 No.71471

>>71456
>>71465
Samefagging Jew.

The Jew is trying to brainwash you into thinking Kemono and other similar sites are operated and maintained by a handful of people who are paying and sharing everything you see on the internet.

The purpose of the brainwashing operation is to put a stop to sharing.

If you fall for his retarded propaganda, you are Jew cattle and that means you need to kill yourself before you reproduce or brainwash others. If you've reproduced or brainwashed others, kill them before you kill yourself.

 No.71475

The entertainment and publishing industries treat every unauthorized copy as a lost sale. But that math only works when you're a retard for letting yourself get brainwashed into thinking people would have paid for it if they couldn't read it for free. That's not how it plays out in real life.

Those people simply weren't going to buy it. Maybe it's too expensive, not available in their country, or not something they'd spend money on. So when companies tally up their "losses," they're often counting people who were never really customers to begin with. Taking it away from them doesn't move those people to the checkout page, it means they move on.

There's also something to be said for how sharing paywalled information actually spreads awareness. A lot of content, especially smaller or foreign titles, builds its entire fanbase through people sharing and discovering it outside of official channels. That kind of organic reach is hard to manufacture, and it often translates into real revenue down the line through merchandise, sequels, licensing, and people who eventually do pay.

And there's research to support this. A large study commissioned by the European Union found no real evidence that sharing paywalled information cuts into legitimate sales in a meaningful way. The data even pointed in the opposite direction.

Corporations counting these losses also conveniently ignore the value that comes from having a bigger, more engaged audience.

What history has actually shown is that when content is priced fairly, easy to access, and available in the right places, sharing paywalled information tends to drop. A lot of the time, it exists because there's a gap in what the market is offering, not because people have some deep commitment to getting things for free.

 No.71476

>>71471
lol, use chatgpt at this point anon, you'd be surprised at how much time you'd save so you can go back to a productive and healthy life

 No.71477

>>71476
i wonder why you Jews can't refute that post

i wonder why you Jews can't name one single successful "gatekept" site

i wonder why you Jews want people to use your goy slop services

i wonder why you Jews lie so fucking much every single day

 No.71478

Why does the Jew get mad when I bring up AnimeBytes, the largest "gatekept" anime site in existence that leeches off public websites for content?

 No.71479

>>71465
God that twitter incident was the most retarded thing ever, literally the total opposite of what must be done, also nice catbox pic.

>>71471
Schizo retard, i'm op, i'm not associated with the cryptography anon at all, Kemono has always been maintained by its own admins, but the content was sourced from anyone who was willing to scrap it, I scrapped once and I'd do it again if I had the monetary means to, shit like this shouldn't be kept behind retarded paywalls. But Kemono's management has always been a fucking mess, too open for its own good, this happening was just a matter of time with how much attention the site was pulling, but I guess that you can't comprehend that with your cum-rotted brain so you assume that anyone who ever dares to suggest a little more control over how the site operates is a jew or something.

 No.71480

>>71477
Simpcity can only be browsed with an account and it's in an extremely healthy state

Exhentai has existed for literal years and will keep existing for many more

Allthefallen has been attacked to hell and back from many groups yet it's still there, standing, against all odds.

 No.71483

(1/3)

>>71480
that's the best you can come up with, jew? your lies are as retarded as you are. you should be licking the feet of the european gentiles who shield you from your justified extermination instead of screeching that the european gentiles aren't giving you more than everything.

>Simpcity


is not a "gatekept" site as anyone can register an account and the site's owner wants as many people as possible to know about the site's existence because of ad revenue, donations and other things,
has been around for a few months,
doesn't pay for any storage,
doesn't host any files,
their users link to shitty compressions, user-edited files and duplicates,
no API,
doesn't own mega.nz, pixeldrains and the other storage sites that you claim are owned by simpcity,
censors a post when someone sends in a "copyright claim".

in contrast, kemono has been around for almost a decade, is an actual source, and serves terabytes upon terabytes of original files to visitors.

 No.71485

(2/3)

>Exhentai


is not a "gatekept" site as anyone with a residential IP address from a non-banned country can register an account and the site's owner wants as many people as possible to know about the site's existence because of ad revenue, donations and other things,
in 2019 the owner threatened to close the site unless someone donated a lot of money,
because the site lets anyone create a gallery and they don't verify the content in the gallery, most of their galleries contain user-edited files, shitty compressed files, duplicates, and files that the artist never created or included in the work,
unfriendly API,
a lot of their galleries contain files that were copied over from kemono,
each gallery has to be created by a user manually,
the uploader can do anything with the gallery,
censors a gallery when someone sends in a "copyright claim".

 No.71488

(3/3)

>Allthefallen


is not a "gatekept" site as anyone can register an account and the site's owner wants as many people as possible to know about the site's existence because of ad revenue, donations and other things,
censors a post when someone sends in a "copyright claim",
most of their images are copied over from kemono and other public websites,
each post has to be made by a user manually,
each post can only contain one image,
the uploader can do anything with the post,
a lot of files are shitty compressions or user-edited files,
censors a post when someone sends in a "copyright claim".

case in point, the OP who is a Jew can't point out one (1) "gatekept" site.

this is because all of these sites are in it for the money. they don't want to be gatekept. they want as many people as possible to know about their existence.

>If you fall for his retarded propaganda, you are Jew cattle and that means you need to kill yourself before you reproduce or brainwash others. If you've reproduced or brainwashed others, kill them before you kill yourself.


this THIS THIS THIS FUCKING THIS MANY TIMES OVER

 No.71489

The OP can't even explain what a "gatekept" site is.

He spams his retarded anti-sharing propaganda and sprinkles it with the term "gatekeeping" and waits for retards to get psyop'd into becoming his cattle.

And because 99% of internet users are retards and European gentiles shield him from his extermination, he has no incentive to stop.

If Kemono was a "gatekept" site, this is what it'd be like:

- you'd have to be a "self-purchaser" aka an importer to get access to the site.

- you'd have to keep sharing a new purchase on the site to not get locked out of the site.

- when ad revenue isn't enough to cover the server bills, the ridiculously low amount of self-purchasers have to pay for it or the site closes down for good.

- despite the "effort" to keep the site "gatekept", all major law enforcement bodies in the Western realm and in Western-adjacent realms like China, Japan, South Korea, and the Philippines knew about the site's existence before the site was even a week old.

- before the site is one month old, it would've closed down for good because ad revenue wasn't enough and the ridiculously low amount of self-purchasers on it didn't want to pay for the storage bill.

 No.71504

ngl this nigga cooked af go touch grass bro 💀

 No.71505

>>71483
Least insane kemono shill lmao, is this you admin?

 No.71508

>>71489
>mfw not even ai slop is this retarded
>reee l-le namecalling reddit posting
>jew cattle gatekeeper fetus tranny amoeba
You're not just a sperging schizo, you're literally posting complete nonsense that doesn't even qualify as a shitpost. Do some research before screeching on threads because you're mad at not getting your free stuff and too dense to build your own scraper you absolute psychopath.

Bumping because this is so unhinged it's hilarious. Keep malding until you have a stroke or something.

 No.71512

kemono only worked because it was popular, there's no way to make a down low, gatekept alternative because its impossible to for the people to pay for *checks kemono* 108055 fucking artists. Literally several million dollars worth of subscriptions must have been spent here. Not to mention money for the petabytes of storage it must take.

 No.71514

>>71483
>Anyone can register an account and the owner wants as many people as possible

Registrations are disabled as we speak, retard.

>doesn't own mega.nz, pixeldrains and the other storage sites that you claim are owned by simpcity


I never claimed shit, did your shitty LLM come out with this one?

>>71485

>Same llm bs


Registrations are open to e-hentai, the front site, no one has immediate access to the exhentai version, any new account has to reach enough antiquity first, also there are no ads on exhentai at all, only on e-hentai, for the admin part, it's not like kemono's admins are role models either, there is a reason this isn't the first kemono imageboard.

>>71488 (this one is even more full of shit)

>same stupid LLM retardation


registrations are (also) down as we speak, no site under the atf banner has ads, not even the booru, the owner doesn't accept any donations in the slightest either.

>most of their images are copied over from kemono and other public websites.


it's also a forum and a booru, retard, of course some images tend to come from somewhere else, despite that it does have its own service for hosting shit and it works wonders, many artists share their own stuff there.

honestly this last one shows how little you actually know, and how blind you are, unless you just fed shit to a free llm and asked it to make you an aswer, which is even more retarded.

By gatekeeping I just mean an actual effort to keep things laying low, avoid SEO bullshit (it's extremely retarded that you can find shit in kemono by just using google) and stop random brainlet onlookers from easily seeing what's going on, it's not hard gatekeeping, just acknowledging the shady nature of the site and not being retarded about it.

 No.71515

>>71512

tbf a good bunch of these artists are one off imports that no one will actually miss, for example, every single discord server that's scrapped counts as an artist, and if you take a look there is a fair number of imports that are literal test servers, irrelevant slop and crypto spam, same for other platforms, there is a good bunch of ai slop makers who most likely scrapped themselves into the website, not to mention the hefty amount of non artist stuff that lays within the website like youtuber patreons, donation pages and the like, a more down low site wouldn't stop traffic from getting there, it would just be filtered a bit, the relevant stuff would still be there, growth would just be slower, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, because things would be more focused and not as messy as they currently are.

 No.71516

>>71504
>>71505
>>71508
>>71514
it's quite interesting that you can't refute anything said in those anons' posts nor explain what you mean by "gatekeeping", Jew.

 No.71518

>>71516
>intelligent (retarded) sounding one liner that ignores literally everything that was just said

jesus christ dude, learn to fucking read, is your schizophrenia that bad? lmfao, not even an attempt at arguing back, your LLM credits must be running out I guess, I get it though, you don't want to be called out as an ESL retard in the middle of an argument, it's okay, it happens.

 No.71519

if we're copy pasting text spit out by LLM aka your goyslop service, we'd be repeating your retarded propaganda, Jew.

 No.71520

>>71515
give an actual number and all examples.

oh wait, you're a Jew. you'd be then refuting your retarded propaganda.

 No.71522

>>71520
nah, you'd clearly be too retarded and autistic to understand anyways.



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